tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1779856905043001159.post8989981554849818710..comments2017-04-25T16:04:42.359-04:00Comments on The Karamazov Group Blog: Provide Upgrade Feedback to Denver - A Unique Opportunityjxs2151http://www.blogger.com/profile/13599578258965424531noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1779856905043001159.post-17442302373734605722011-07-05T17:11:44.253-04:002011-07-05T17:11:44.253-04:00Sebastian,
I appreciate your comments, you make s...Sebastian,<br /><br />I appreciate your comments, you make some very valid points indeed. Oracle can do a better job at convincing customers to upgrade. I've made the point that if customers see the value in upgrading, they will, leaning on them is probably not going to get it done. Make awesome software that's bug-free, fix the years-old bugs and shower your customers with love and Jeff Stevensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15270294729320224357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1779856905043001159.post-19228970461468995732011-07-05T16:58:06.018-04:002011-07-05T16:58:06.018-04:00Brian,
The new Upgrade Value Proposition Tool may...Brian,<br /><br />The new <a href="https://apex.oracle.com/pls/apex/f?p=24153:100:0" rel="nofollow">Upgrade Value Proposition Tool</a> may help with some of your issues about what is and is not available. Oracle has gone to great lengths to address that problem. Hopefully the UVP tool will help.<br /><br />Oracle can recommend upgrade partners, there are plenty. I am working on determining theJeff Stevensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15270294729320224357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1779856905043001159.post-3596555806773326812011-06-30T19:55:28.133-04:002011-06-30T19:55:28.133-04:00Wow, what a great blog topic! All the margins for...Wow, what a great blog topic! All the margins for companies like Oracle (JDE) and SAP are in the maintenance revenue streams these days. That is why you see this incessant push for upgrades from the vendor that are so out of touch with customer reality that we can honestly say the model is broken. <br /><br />This is 20 - 30 year old software and the fact is you are not seeing enough Sebastian Gradyhttp://www.riministreet.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1779856905043001159.post-12397330894420764032011-06-30T09:27:55.436-04:002011-06-30T09:27:55.436-04:00One of the biggest issues keeping the business fro...One of the biggest issues keeping the business from upgrading is a lack of understanding or misinformation about what is and is not available in a new release. We had several meetings with JDE/PSFT/Oracle execs to discuss the new features/applications available in the "next" release only to find out, once we did some due diligence and asked very specific and pointed questions, that theBrian Connorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06731489376393282849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1779856905043001159.post-83969869148446812792011-06-29T14:27:21.876-04:002011-06-29T14:27:21.876-04:00Our main reason to upgrade is to keep our JDEdward...Our main reason to upgrade is to keep our JDEdwards release supported by Oracle. Our major pain of upgrading is to spend time on testing all functions in all business area like finance, sales, procurement, shipping. We have to ask business process owners to plan and spend a few months to test all business processes in JDE and ensure the functionality does not cause problem in newer release. On Harry Chennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1779856905043001159.post-2384542214546315612011-06-29T12:09:36.542-04:002011-06-29T12:09:36.542-04:00Upgrades require extensive applications testing, t...Upgrades require extensive applications testing, time, and money. Finding the time and resources for this is very difficult. There must be a business case to get the business behind the project and committing these resources. For automotive manufacturing, there has been little business value in maintaining a ‘code current’ system. The EnterpriseOne upgrades are not providing the additional Doug Rezankanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1779856905043001159.post-16958356626217667792011-06-29T09:07:38.090-04:002011-06-29T09:07:38.090-04:00I've done more migrations than I have leaves l...I've done more migrations than I have leaves left on poor plant in my office window... I still don't understand the ruckus of 'how hard' it is to upgrade. <br /><br />The biggest issue is Customizations. Apparently It is WIDELY Misunderstood. From and E1 to E1 Upgrade - Oracle has gone to great lengths to make things easier (ER Compare is your friend). They do need to go Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1779856905043001159.post-44474179079787939282011-06-29T08:44:41.342-04:002011-06-29T08:44:41.342-04:00Thanks for the comment. Could you take some time ...Thanks for the comment. Could you take some time and expand a bit on what exactly made (is making) it so painful?Jeff Stevensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15270294729320224357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1779856905043001159.post-86959176134136756522011-06-29T06:58:23.929-04:002011-06-29T06:58:23.929-04:00We have not upgraded to 9.x, but did recently '...We have not upgraded to 9.x, but did recently 'upgrade' to double byte on 7.3. So far, it has been an 8 month nightmare. There is pretty much no way I would ever upgrade either a system i or JDE World again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com